Student Discussion Posts not Showing in Speedgrader

[tellison]

I have a professor that has assigned a graded discussion, however when trying to grade it through Speedgrader the post and replies do not appear.  The only thing that appears on the Speedgrader screen is:

He can select "view the full discussion" and sort by student entries.

Is there an issue with Speedgrader or a setting that he has selected?

[tellison · Accepted solution]

This makes sense. He actually created a group set in the class but did not

place anyone in there since he didn't know how it worked. He has since

taken the group set out.

Thank you.

[tdanner · Accepted solution]

The workaround below resolved our issue:

1. In the Settings of the Discussion, uncheck the Graded option.
2. Save the change.
3. Go back into the Settings and check the Graded option.
4. Save the change.

[kblack]

Hi tellison‌ - Unless I'm misunderstanding your question, SpeedGrader is working exactly as designed for a graded discussion.  SpeedGrader will not show the original post or prompt by the instructor.  It will only show that specific student's replies to the discussion prompt.  To view the context, then indeed the link that you reference at the top must be clicked upon.  This is all shown in this online guide: https://community.canvaslms.com/docs/DOC-13307-4152801031  In fact, the screen capture under View Submissions shows the very same text that you have in your question.  If there is nothing on that screen, it means the specific student the instructor is viewing did not yet contribute to the discussion.  

I often tell faculty during my workshops that SpeedGrader allows you to isolate on just one student's contributions in a Discussion without going through the whole discussion.  If, on the other hand, you see in SpeedGrader something like "I totally disagree with that!" and nothing else from a student, you have to view it in the context of the full discussion to see exactly to whom the student was replying.

(All that said, if a student is showing nothing in SpeedGrader but a check of the full discussion indeed indicates that the specific student did reply, then it may be time to contact Canvas Support to see if there's an issue with the student replies showing.)

I hope this helps a bit, Tammy. 

[tellison]

I understand everything you said, however it is not showing the student

replies when in fact they have replied.

I showed the professor how to select View discussion and search for the

entry but this not how it should function. It should show the individual student’s

posts in Speedgrader. 

I was asking if if there was an issue or a setting he may have selected to cause this. 

[kblack]

If it was a regular, graded discussion then there is nothing I can think of that could cause that behavior if the students replied, Tammy. Even in a graded GROUP discussion the instructor should still be able to see all individual student replies in SpeedGrader.  There is not any issue that I am aware of regarding this, and in fact I tried it again just now on a sample course site just to be sure.  That's not to say that it's working for everyone, though.  I would definitely file a case with Instructure on this, then.  But first, just a few added precautions:

-Eliminate browser issues. (Make sure the instructor is on an updated browser.  Speaking of which...can YOU see the student replies in SpeedGrader....if you have administrative rights? If so, perhaps there's a browser issue.)

-If you have admin rights, you may want to see if you can replicate the issue yourself...perhaps on a test class or something.  If yes, there's something odd going on.  If not, then it may be specific to your instructor.

Sorry I can't think of more!

[tellison]

Thank you Ken. It is does not do it on my computer so I will report a case.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 8:10 AM kblack@dom.edu <instructure@jiveon.com>

[James]

tellison 

This sounds like a long-standing issue when there is a group discussion and the student is not, or was not, in a group before they made their posts. Only students in groups at the time the posts were made will have them show up in SpeedGrader.

Another issue I've found with group assignments is that if you leave a submission comment to a student who is not in a group that the comment you leave in SpeedGrader disappears. The student gets it, but you can't find it if you go back in later. I eventually found it under the "Download submission comments" at the bottom of the comments section in SpeedGrader, but that's as a PDF and not friendly for copy/pasting to repeat the comment.

The first one I've experienced with groups I put the students into, but some students weren't there to be put into a group and they replied before they came to class. The second example was with self-selected groups. That makes me think it's more of a "group" thing than specific to self-selected.

[tellison · Accepted solution]

This makes sense. He actually created a group set in the class but did not

place anyone in there since he didn't know how it worked. He has since

taken the group set out.

Thank you.

[tdanner]

I was just contacted by an instructor who is experiencing the same issue, and she's not using groups in her course. Oddly, the students' posts are displaying when accessing SpeedGrader in Grades for prior the first three graded discussions, but they're not displaying for her most recent graded discussion. The issue is prevalent when accessing the SpeedGrader through the a student post in the discussion.

[mh69]

If I use this method, will all the grading I've already done be gone when I turn the grading back on? Thanks!

[wcarlton]

I'm having the same problem.  It has worked fine all semester, but not my latest discussion.

[tdanner · Accepted solution]

The workaround below resolved our issue:

1. In the Settings of the Discussion, uncheck the Graded option.
2. Save the change.
3. Go back into the Settings and check the Graded option.
4. Save the change.

[d_whelan]

OK, thanks a lot for that.

This what I needed to do (obviously it may vary depending on what I ahd done in setting up the course and/or the discussions):

1. Go to the Discussion and choose Edit
2. Make a note of points assigned, assignment group (if applicable), assign to everyone (if applicable), due date and time
3. Uncheck the Graded option.
4. Uncheck “This is a Group Discussion”.   
5. Save the change.   
6. Go back to Edit
7. Check the Graded option again.    (Do not check “This is a Group Discussion).  
8. Add back in the points assigned, etc, as noted
9. Save the change.

Darius 

[kaitlynwatson]

I have an instructor who has a group graded discussions getting the message "The submissions for this assignment are posts in the assignment's discussion for this group. Below are the discussion posts for [name], or you can view the full group discussion" however the screen is blank for all students (even if they did post in the discussion). I have asked that he try unchecking graded and rechecking graded. Is Canvas intending to fix this bug?  

[dpell]

I had this issue exactly as described -- students had posted, but their replies are not showing in the speedgrader and I have to click on "view the full discussion", then search to find them.

One additional piece of information that may be relevant: at the top of the discussion I get a message saying that it is a group discussion.  However, there are no options to select whether the discussion is a group discussion or not when setting up the assignment AND the course has no groups set up.  I don't know if this is because of a default behavior (are all discussion boards automatically treated as group assignments?) -- or another detail in a buggy behavior.  We certainly did not intend to make it a group assignment.

[tim_chase · Accepted solution]

Timothy Danner's workaround (edit discussion, marking ungraded, then changing to graded) worked for me.  I had inadvertently marked it as a group discussion to start, then when I went to Speedgrader it showed me none of the students' discussion posts (since I had set up no groups, perhaps?). 

But when I went to edit and noticed my grouping selection, I was unable to uncheck groups because students had already submitted into the discussion.  By marking it as ungraded, I was able to uncheck the groups.  Then when I edited again and marked as graded, all the students' submissions re-appeared for me in Speedgrader.

Which is awesome.

[Jen_Charles]

This slightly longer version (not just ungraded, save, graded, save) also worked for me just now. Just for the record - as of 5/25/21 this is the way to go. 🙂

[cinderanne101]

Hello, I am currently a student and this message, "The submissions for this assignment are posts in the assignment's discussion for this group. Below are the discussion posts for [student name], or you can view the full discussion." showed up after I submitted my discussion post. It says submitted but both I and my professor cannot see anything underneath the message or even after clicking the link. It also says I am not subscribed and it feels like my discussion post just vanished. Please advise!! 

[trippcaldwellkr]

I have been having this same problem for the past several quarters, ever since I switched my courses so that I have two sections in one Canvas shell. I have set up a group for each section of the course so that the threads aren't too long for the students. It is very strange, only part of each course section will not show up in speed grader. I have to then go to the thread and dig up the students work that doesn't show in speed grader, (makes grading longer and a general mess). I tried the turn off and on "graded" in the settings but that didn't work for me. Any other solutions would be greatly appreciated! 

[HannahSaffold]

I had this problem and found that Canvas defaulted to "Project" groups and not the groups that actually had my students in them (I named them "Discussion Groups") when I copied my new course. Because there was a mismatch between where my students were placed by me (Discussion Groups) and where Canvas was grading from (the Canvas default "Project" Groups), I had to search the discussions to grade those that were already submitted because I couldn't see them in Speedgrader. Then I went into all the future discussions and changed the group to the correct one. Hope this helps someone out there.

[jessgrieser]

Thank you! Same problem; same solution. 

[milesl]

In case anyone would like to see a better solution, I created a feature request for Canvas to address the underlying issue and display ungrouped discussion posts in the speedgrader: [Groups] Speedgrader support for ungrouped discuss... - Instructure Community - 412275 (canvaslms.co...