How can I regrade a quiz with attached question banks

[fritzs]

After completing a quiz with question banks, I noticed an error in one of the answers . . . actually a student did.  When I go back to the question bank and change the answer, it does not regrade the quiz.  How can I make this happen.  PS I have 250 students and really don't want to have to go into speed grader for every kid and regrade manually.  Please tell me there is a way to do this.

[rmurchshafer]

Samuel,

Unfortunately you can't regrade a question if it's being pulled from a question bank.  I've linked to a guide page below and here is the part you were hoping not to see.

"Regrade Restrictions

Quiz regrade does not apply to questionslinked to a question bank since questions may be used in more than one quiz."

What options can I use to regrade a quiz in a course? 

Rick

[mcarlson]

I'm often astounded by the poor programming and UI decisions by Canvas developers.

Since it is "new" and I figure the old way of doing things would eventually go away, I thought I'd try to embrace the "New Quiz" style.  I made the exam and went for it....  Never mind the fact that I have to "Bank" questions on a quiz if I want the program to select one or two out of several.  (You could just put them all in a block in the old quiz program... now I'm being forced to put them all into "banks"..  if every time I need to pick X out of Y choices I need a new "bank" I'm going to have 100+ banks flying around.  It doesn't look to me that the current way of organizing these "banks" is up to the challenge of having that many different ones...

Now I've found an error in one of my questions on an exam.  Could I simply change it?  Nope, since it was put into a "bank", it's no longer changeable.  

I've had about 50+ students take the exam.  It's a formula question so going through and grading by hand is nigh impossible.  (I need to go in for all 50 students and compute the right answer each time...)

Uuggh... 

<vent off>

[tara_white1]

In these remote times when face-to-face instructors and students alike are not as comfortable online as others. This is a HUGE headache. I wish Canvas would seriously take a look and update this issue! Regrading easily is necessary!

[CurtisHartling]

I've also learned this lesson the hard way. Most of the time when I've tried something new or a new feature in Canvas, this has resulted in unforeseen consequences that require so much manual backtracking. This has been an incredible time-suck. I have stopped trying anything new in Canvas for fear of having to waste time correcting issues. This platform (Canvas) has stifled my creativity as an instructor. Canvas is THE WORST!

[jbruschke]

I agree -- Canvas only supports what canvas wants and if you have a better idea or just want to do something slightly different it's an enormous pain, every time.  Small mistakes take forever to correct.  They are incredibly arrogant about assuming their way is the best or only way to teach, and it is a definite case of technology homogenizing diverse approaches.  Bugs me bad.

[kjpatten]

To say this is frustrating would be an understatement. Can we campaign for the programming team to release an update that will allow for this?

[andrew_mathas]

When I found this page I was pleasantly surprised to find that this question had a solution as, in my experience, it is rare to find answers to canvas problems on this site. So, I wasn't really surprised to find that the solution was that canvas does not support this. Disappointed, yes. Surprised, no.

Dear canvas developers can you PLEASE implement a proper quiz regrading system. The current quiz system in canvas is so poorly thought out that it is risky to use for grading large classes because there is a large risk that a llot of time will be wasted if something goes even sligthly wrong. On-line quizze systems are supposed to save time but every time I use the feature-poor interfaces provided by canvas I end up regretting it because I need to to work around poor design choices and so end up with a time deficit.

On top of this, I find the canvas "community" pages to be a source of constant frustion because time and time again I see users asking canvas to add features, or to fix existing bugs, and then...nothing happens. There is no response from the canvas development team. The bugs are not fixed. The essentially features that are missing are still not implemented...and, at the same time, my university is paying canvas an absolute fortune for the "pleasure" of using this system.

Can you pleae start supporting your users and provide a better quality system?

[Chris_Hofer]

@andrew_mathas ...

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@andrew_mathas wrote:

When I found this page I was pleasantly surprised to find that this question had a solution as, in my experience, it is rare to find answers to canvas problems on this site. So, I wasn't really surprised to find that the solution was that canvas does not support this. Disappointed, yes. Surprised, no.

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I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this...as you'll find that many Community members do answer questions for other Canvas users here on this site.  Any topic that has the green check-mark icon next to it has a "solution".  Canvas Question Forum - Instructure Community

Re: your request to implement a proper quiz regrading system...  I think it would be best for you to consider submitting this as a Feature Idea here in the Community.  That way, others here in the Community have a chance to evaluate it to see if it would be something they would also like to see implemented by Instructure (the folks that make Canvas).  Here are some Guides to get you started:

• How do idea conversations work in the Instructure Community?
• What is the feature development process for Instructure products?
• How do I create a new idea conversation in the Instructure Community?

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On top of this, I find the canvas "community" pages to be a source of constant frustion because time and time again I see users asking canvas to add features, or to fix existing bugs, and then...nothing happens. There is no response from the canvas development team. The bugs are not fixed. The essentially features that are missing are still not implemented...and, at the same time, my university is paying canvas an absolute fortune for the "pleasure" of using this system.

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As a fellow Canvas end-user, I understand the frustration, Andrew.  I've been there myself...where I've submitted a Feature Idea here in the Community that I think would benefit many people...but then it seems to go un-noticed for weeks, months, and sometimes years.  But, at the same time, I've also submitted Feature Ideas that have been implemented in Canvas...some of which I didn't think would stand a chance of getting implemented.  In fact, at the time, there wasn't much Community interest (that I could tell, anyway) in my idea, but yet it was still implemented.  So, I'm not exactly sure why my idea was considered or if there was other feedback they had received (not posted here in the Community) from Canvas users.  The statement "bugs are not fixed" is not accurate.  There is a Known Issues - Instructure Community page that you can visit to see what things are currently known issues and what has been fixed.

All this being said, I would encourage you to continue participating in conversations here in the Community.  And, if you see Feature Ideas that people have suggested that are in line with something you'd also like to see implemented by Instructure, then consider giving those ideas a star rating (as described in the Feature Idea links above) and also providing a comment as to why that particular request would also be important to you.  Instructure likes to hear from us, and providing real-world examples is of great help...so they can consider all the different scenarios that might come up.

I'm hopeful that some or all of this will be helpful to you.  Please let Community members know if you have any other questions...thanks.  Take care...be well.

[mcarlson]

@Chris_Hofer

I've been there myself...where I've submitted a Feature Idea here in the Community that I think would benefit many people...but then it seems to go un-noticed for weeks, months, and sometimes years.  But, at the same time, I've also submitted Feature Ideas that have been implemented in Canvas...some of which I didn't think would stand a chance of getting implemented.  In fact, at the time, there wasn't much Community interest (that I could tell, anyway) in my idea, but yet it was still implemented. 

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Really?  Can you give a couple of examples of features you suggested and they've added?  I actually know of no features that I have suggested (most I'm pretty darn sure would benefit many people) that have been implemented....

We just had a faculty training session yesterday where some people found out that classic Quizzes are going away.  Many were dumbfounded that such a thing would happen when many features have been "lost" or failed to be implemented in the new version...  (no partial credit for matching?  really?)

All I can deduce is that they need to spend more on programmers and possibly less on PR.  That or some initial decisions on programming structure/implementation were poorly chosen, explaining the difficulty in implementing any new features.

[Chris_Hofer]

@mcarlson ...

Sure thing.  I had to do some digging to find some of the Feature Ideas I've submitted in the past...it's not as easy to find things that I've suggested here in the current Community platform as it was in the old Community platform.  So, here are a handful of things that have been marked as "Completed" by Instructure that I've suggested in the past years.  Again, some of these seem small...and I didn't really expect them to be implemented.  But, there must have been other research (besides just votes/star ratings) that factored into their decisions to move forward with these (see What is the feature development process for Instructure products? for their other sources of feedback/research):

• Bold Title Field of Global Announcements - Instructure Community
• Rubric for Informational Text with No Point Value - Instructure Community
• Duplicating Rating Scales in the Same Rubric - Instructure Community
• HTML Formatter - Instructure Community
• Custom Role Name on "View All or Customize" screen - Instructure Community

There are a few more of mine among the 600+ that are listed on this particular page: Idea Conversations - Instructure Community  But, you can take a look at the "Idea Statuses" box on the right side of that page and click on any of the status labels to see a wide variety of Feature Ideas and where they may be at within the development process.

Hope this helps a bit.

[CurtisHartling]

Great news! This issue has a solution! The solution is... you can't do that. Sorry (not sorry) for not "being cool" re: the Canvas message boards community standards. Can't simply randomize quizzes without putting questions into a question bank... can't re-grade quiz questions if they are in a question bank... repeat.

[MartinMonti]

This problem was posted here 2 years ago -- is there still no solution?

It is hard to believe that Canvas would not think that mistakes happen in quizzes and that it would be a fairly obvious needed feature to be able to edit an answer in a bank. Is Canvas really not doing anything about this?

I have to say, Canvas works just fine for small courses, but it is really terrible in terms of management for large courses (e.g., just like the re-grading, giving extra time to students needs to be done 1 click at a time, per each student). I used to use Moodle before my university switched to canvas and it was so much more convenient in terms of course management for large classes. Very disappointing.

Considering Canvas has ignored this issue for the past 2 years, does further requesting this feature have any possibility of follow-up?

[canvasorbb]

Wow. This is terrible. It is not a solution. It is a description of a bug that Canvas ought to fix.

[Loosegravel]

First time user of Canvas.  Long-time instructor of large lecture classes.  I'm incredulous that this product does not have the functionality to correct errors after the fact if an instructor wants use question banks.  I don't know who to blame here, the developers and programmers or my university for signing us up for a product that is so flawed.  The fact that this thread began four years ago, and people keep requesting a solution, and still no fix is not "cool". 

-RS

[JosephKJ]

Canvas team, please dont let us down. This is an essential feature. We deal with 300+ students and its really hard to regrade each submission. Looking forward for this feature in future releases. 

[HefnerKevinq]

If you accidentally published a quiz that needs to be corrected, you can use quiz regrade to edit existing quiz questions and have Canvas recalculate student grades. Please note, the regrade function currently works only with the following question types true false, multiple choice, and multiple answer.

[jbruschke]

Aren't you just restating that there isn't a solution for linked questions?

[vice]

Actually, if you go to any individual student submission you can click the "Regrade" button for that question. Here you can change the correct answer and distribute credit the way you did with old Canvas Quiz.

[jbruschke]

Appreciate the thought, but the question is how to regrade a quiz WITHOUT going through individual student records...impossibly frustrating over a large number of students...

[heathera]

The lack of a regrade option with quiz banks is still an ongoing issue. The OP of this thread posted in 2020, and there still has not been a fix. PLEASE, CANVAS, create a workaround for this. With 100+ students in a class, it is incredibly time consuming to have to correct every individual exam because of a single click mistake.

[marafinom]

Seems that there hasn't been a solution yet so I'll jump on the bandwagon. Faculty I work with have found this incredibly frustrating. It doesn't seem like this is going to be addressed, so does anyone have any viable workarounds?

[Operon]

Of course there is a solution to this vexxing problem. I am suffering greatly with this dilemma right now. Why Canvas refuses to impliment such a solution is beyond me. It shows a great deal of contempt for their users. The fact that you can review the answer statistics for an exam means that corrections can be done. It is really independent of a Question Bank. Heck, that's why we have relational databases. Clearly, this is not a new problem as evidenced by the dates of the respondants. I feel like a huge chump right now.

[CurtisHartling]

It is the many Canvas issues like this one that have completely zapped my creativity as an online instructor. 0 stars; would not recommend.

[isaac-t-peterse]

Please fix this Canvas. We need to be able to re-grade quizzes with items from an item bank!