Canvas keeps adding 1 point to an ungraded survey

[PangoChango]

I'm trying to create an ungraded survey (titled "Progress Report") consisting of 4 questions.

Even though each question is set to "0" points (see attached), as soon as I save it all, and then try to add the Survey to a Module, it ends up being worth 1 point (and "1 pts" is displayed) next to it. 

Is there a way to prevent Canvas from adding that 1 point? 

[Chris_Hofer · Accepted solution]

Good morning, @PangoChango ...

That's an interesting observation, and to be honest, I don't really have an explanation for you.  I was able to create the same scenario in my own sandbox course.  But, the good news is...even though it does indicate that the ungraded survey is worth 1 point on the "Modules" page, each question still is 0 points when a student takes the survey.  But, in my opinion, that really doesn't matter...because ungraded surveys aren't calculated in the Gradebook.  You won't find a column for your ungraded survey in the Gradebook.  So, while this may be a bit confusing because of the "1 pts" display on your "Modules" screen, you might be able to quickly remedy this by providing instructions for your students letting them know the survey really isn't worth any points ... and treat it as a true survey.

If you wanted, you could report this as a possible bug to the folks at the Canvas Help Desk so that they can investigate and fix if needed.  How do I contact Canvas Support? - Canvas Community

I hope this will help a bit.  Sing out if you have any other questions about this...thanks!  Take care...be well.

[Chris_Hofer · Accepted solution]

Good morning, @PangoChango ...

That's an interesting observation, and to be honest, I don't really have an explanation for you.  I was able to create the same scenario in my own sandbox course.  But, the good news is...even though it does indicate that the ungraded survey is worth 1 point on the "Modules" page, each question still is 0 points when a student takes the survey.  But, in my opinion, that really doesn't matter...because ungraded surveys aren't calculated in the Gradebook.  You won't find a column for your ungraded survey in the Gradebook.  So, while this may be a bit confusing because of the "1 pts" display on your "Modules" screen, you might be able to quickly remedy this by providing instructions for your students letting them know the survey really isn't worth any points ... and treat it as a true survey.

If you wanted, you could report this as a possible bug to the folks at the Canvas Help Desk so that they can investigate and fix if needed.  How do I contact Canvas Support? - Canvas Community

I hope this will help a bit.  Sing out if you have any other questions about this...thanks!  Take care...be well.

[benedicte_rokvi · Accepted solution]

Hi there,

If you change the unmarked survey to > marked survey and assign 0 points to it > Save > change it again to unmarked survey.... It should bring the 0 point into the module view....It worked for me 😌

[davidgs]

I had to take an extra step:

1. My ungraded survey has two questions, each of which was set by Canvas to one point. I could find no way to change it to zero points each, which is what brought me here.
2. I changed the ungraded survey to a graded quiz.
3. I was then able to edit the point value for each question, changing each to zero, and clicked 'Save.'
4. I then changed the graded quiz back to an ungraded survey.

That worked for me.

It seems to be a bug that we cannot edit the point value of questions for ungraded surveys.

[cliff_cunningha]

Hi, @PangoChango. It is now 3.5 years later, from when you first posted this. And... we are still seeing this: Canvas displays points for questions in "ungraded surveys". Personally, not a fan. I'll submit a change request (if I can remember how we do these things). (Seems like a no-brainer.)

[Chris_Hofer]

@cliff_cunningha ...

Instructure is not really doing any more significant work with respect to Classic Quizzes (which includes surveys)...as they are now putting their efforts into the New Quizzes interface.  If you submit any kind of request for Classic Quizzes, it may go unnoticed for quite a long time.  So, the thing to do, IMHO, would be to formulate your idea geared towards New Quizzes instead.  Please check out the section on "Ideas and Themes" here on how to create a new idea here in the Community:

Instructure Community Guide - Instructure Community (canvaslms.com)