Admin Control to Lock Course Starts and Ends Dates

[tamara_becker]

Canvas Admins need the ability to lock course Starts and Ends dates from teachers at the account level without using unsupported custom Java Script.

 Please show your Canvas Admin some love and VOTE UP now! 

Need more details?....then read on...

The Issue: Teachers and school administration need all students to have similar experiences. 

Here are four scenarios that occur without control of the Course Dates:

1) Let's say the math teacher changes their Course Starts date to 2 weeks before the Term starts, but the biology teacher leaves the Course Starts date blank.  Student A can see their math course, but Student A cannot see their biology course. Student A will contact the Canvas Support to find out why they cannot see their biology course.  

2) Let's say Student B and Student C are friends take accounting 101 but not in the same section.  The section one teacher has changed the course Starts date to one week before the Term Date.  Student B can see their accounting 101 course but Student C cannot see their accounting 101 course. Student B has an advantage already over student C. Furthermore, Student C contacts Canvas Support to find out why they can't see their class.

3) Let say the teacher has accidentally changed the dates to be a 1-day course. See the screen capture below. The 30 students on day three are not able to see the course on their dashboard anymore and all contact Canvas Support.

4) Let's say a new teacher has imported course content from a fellow seasoned teacher choosing the wrong dates for Adjust Events and Due Dates and now the course dates are two years outside the Term Dates. The teacher is not able to see the course on their dashboard and make a call to Canvas Support.  The course is off to bumpy start.:smileyplain:

:smileycheck: If you've experienced any of these scenarios please VOTE UP now.

Still need more persuasion?... keep reading...

The Problems with Controlling Courses:

1) The hierarchy of control of the course dates is confusing.  

I've gathered the guides and links below to try to understand the control of Course Starts and Course Ends dates. These guides are related to Term Dates, Course Start and Ends dates, Assignment Dates, and Copy/Import Course Content. If I have missed any please post them in a comment.

• How do I restrict student access before or after a course date at the account level?
• How do term dates, course dates, and section dates work in Canvas?
• Student Access to Canvas Flowchart
• How do I restrict student access to a course before or after the course dates?
• How do I customize visibility options for course content?
• How do I use course settings?
• Terms, Courses, and Section Enrollments
• Start/End dates for courses -scroll down in the page for the PDF by Sarah Phinney
  

:smileycheck: If you find this documentation confusing VOTE UP now!

If you need more convincing...there's more to read...

2) The only way to remove teacher access is by using Custom Java Script which is NOT supported by Instructure. 

Twice in the past year Canvas has made changes that has broken our custom Java Script. I submitted tickets with a cry for help, "Please provide us with the JavaScript object path to the Course Starts and Course Ends and their date pickers on the course Details tab within Course Settings."  
This is the response I received:

  " Hi all,

Thank you for contacting Canvas Support. Happy to help!

I have taken a look into this and I regret to inform that the JavaScript requested is not within our scope of Canvas Support.

In order to get assistance with CSS and JS, please access GitHub as these are not supported by Canvas Support.

I apologise for the inconvenience this may cause you.

If you have any further questions or anything else you need help with, please do not hesitate to contact us by replying to this email.

I look forward to hearing from you!

Have a great day!

Marco - L1 Tech Support

Support@instructure.com " 

:smileycheck: If you struggle with custom Java Script in Canvas VOTE UP now! 
:smileycheck: If you don't know Java Script VOTE UP now!

The Solution

The solution could be a checkbox on the Term Details page, see mock-up below.

Or, the solution could be on the Account Settings page, see mock-up below.

Or, it could be how the Awesome Instructure Engineers design it!

:smileycheck: If you like any of these possible solutions and VOTE UP now! 

If I haven't convinced you to VOTE UP by now, and you made it all the way here at the bottom you deserve to be apart of this Idea. VOTE UP!

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This idea has been developed and deployed to Canvas

For more information, please read through the  Canvas Deploy Notes (2021-04-14).

[Steven_S]

1) Our admins specifically instruct us to change the course start dates to be 2 weeks early for all online sections, in order for online students to become familiar with the start here module before the actual start of class.  IF the ability to lock the dates allowed them to just do that from the start it would make sense.  However, we are also instructed that if we are grading after the last day of the term, we need to extend the course dates so that students can see their grades...Rather then LOCKING, why not just ensure that admins can access and change the course start and end dates if needed.

2) Students at our school experience different canvas start dates regularly without concern. 

3) and 4) Suggest that you have zero confidence in faculty.  That is sad.  This should only be a problem with new untrained faculty, and so the question should be, "Who is responsible for training new faculty to use canvas?"  Instead of blocking access to functions that you expect to lead to mistakes, why not send out faculty training information about those functions.  Faculty did not get to where they are by being incapable of learning.

IF this idea goes forward, the check boxes to make content read-only, or block student access entirely, outside of term or course dates need to remain in faculty control.  The admins will not know whether limiting access at the end of any particular course is relevant.

[nicole_fleetwoo]

@Steven_S I respectfully disagree with your assessment of 3 & 4.  It's not that we don't have confidence in our faculty.  Some of it is due to understaffing in eLearning and the fact that not all institutions require Canvas training of their faculty.  The ones that should read the messages choose to ignore these types of emails.  Even if they do read them, it doesn't necessarily mean they understand the impacts of those dates.  Quite a few of our faculty aren't trained teachers, they are from industry and teach a quarter out of the year. We also have a high turnover rate in our adjuncts teaching gen eds. I do the best I can trying to keep everyone up-to-speed.

Given that I'm responsible for supporting our institution's LMS alone (over 3,000 FTEs & 500+ faculty) I need a little more control over what happens during our quarters.  I can control when students are added to course shells, thus controlling to some degree when they can begin accessing course content, but I also need some control over when course accesses will become read-only regardless of what date was entered by the faculty without having to go on a course-by-course basis. 

It's getting to the point where instructors have more controls, features, and functions than the admins do. 

[Jeff_F]

+1  This is awesome!  I am officially joining the @tamara_becker fan club.  👍

[tamara_becker]

Thanks Jeff_F for the support!

Notice that Instructure is making changes to the course availability for Instructors in their 3/20/21 release.  However, Admins still have to keep the Java Script in place to control the teachers availability.  There's movement, but just not directly for Admins at the moment.

[millerjm]

This is already a feature idea, posted 2019-09-05

Admin Control to Lock Course Starts and Ends Dates

https://community.canvaslms.com/t5/Idea-Conversations/Admin-Control-to-Lock-Course-Starts-and-Ends-D...

please add your feedback there so that it's all together in case they ever decide to add this to the road map.  

[kmay]

Our university policy is that students have access to courses 2 weeks prior and 2 weeks following the published course start and end dates. Since we have courses of varying lengths inside a term, obviously the term dates are pretty much useless. 

For the past 3 years we have uploaded feed files with courses start and end dates set as we want them. We have a small program that checks whether the courses are published between those start and end dates, and, if not, it publishes them. We had a bit of java script that stopped people with Teacher roles from being able to change those start and end dates. Why? @Steven_S, not because we have no confidence in our faculty but because, as mentioned by Nicole, we are one of those schools with a small support staff for Canvas, and fully two-thirds of our faculty are adjuncts who teach using Canvas instances belonging to more than one school. The adjuncts are fantastic teachers. But they have the policies of several different institutions in mind when they are working in Canvas. We find it so much easier on them and our support team if we have the course shells set up and ready; and having our policy controlled items blocked from changes is part of that set up. 

With that said, how many times can I up vote this idea since the update last weekend has once again broken the java script that controls the access to the course date fields?

[kirsten_ryall]

Just a quick note on our experience with the new course participation menu that arrived in production with the 20 March 2021 release. We found that if course was selected, we were unable to alter course dates. Instead end date, for example, was defaulting to 24 hours later than 'today'. We had to disable the feature and have submitted a ticket that is now with L2 Support and an engineering ticket is open. My case number is 07468199. Had comments on the release notes not have been closed off I would have added a comment there as there may be other institutions impacted too. We were rather frustrated that the feature arrived in production with what appears to be a bug that was reported and fixed in beta pre-release. I am grateful that the Community did lobby hard to be able to disable this feature. Was too greater risk for us to leave it enabled in the current state.

[Stef_retired]

Comments from Instructure

The course participation options in Canvas courses can be disabled for instructors. This change allows admins to disallow instructors to change start and end dates for individual courses. Additionally, admins no long need to rely on JavaScript files to hide the participation section.

For more information, please read through the  Canvas Deploy Notes (2021-04-14).

[michelle_powell]

@Stef_retired Thank you so much for adding this to Beta.  I have one question about this change.  Will admin still have the ability to change the dates in individual courses so that we can open individual courses up outside of the term dates?  We need to be able to open some courses for individuals to work on incompletes after the end of the course.

Thank you!!