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Does it just go by a percentage? Right now, I have some assignments that are worth slightly different total points. And dropping the lowest assignment by percentage will not necessarily be the assignment that a student would choose to optimize their score. As an extreme example, suppose a student currently has a 90% out of 1000pts. They submit two assignments. On one, they get 1/2 pts, and on the other they get 700/1000 pts. Ostensibly, on the 1/2 assignment, they got 50%, so a naive assignment dropping algorithm would drop that grade (since they got a 70% on the other one). However, if they drop the 1/2, they end up with an 80% in the class, whereas if they drop the 700/1000, they end up with an 89.92%.
If "by percent score" is how the algorithm works, is there any way to override this behavior manually? How can I specify the correct assignment to drop, as opposed to letting Canvas choose?
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Greetings,
I normally suggest that people only use the Drop (ignore) lowest score feature if all assignments in the Assignment Group have the same point value. But, that certainly isn't mandatory and it sounds like you understand the implications of not having them all be the same point value. Take a look at this page about Rules in assignment groups; the upper sections in the shaded box in particular. I've pasted below part of it.
Canvas considers how the rule most negatively or positively affects the student's overall score. A rule to drop the lowest score will remove the assignment score(s) from a student's group percentage calculation that will result in the best possible score for that group. A rule to drop the highest score will remove the assignment score(s) from a student's group percentage calculation that will result in the lowest possible score for that group. Dropping both the lowest and the highest score(s) removes any outlying scores and calculates a student’s grade based upon the remaining middle scores.
Dropping scores is based on the impact to the total points for that assignment group. In some cases, the point value may be considered more important than percentage score when determining which assignment to drop. For example, if a student earns 100% on a 50-point assignment, 65% on a 100-point assignment, and 50% on a 24-point assignment, the student’s total score is 127 out of 174 points, or 73% for the assignment group. If an instructor sets a rule to drop the assignment with the lowest score in the assignment group, Canvas will drop the score that gives the student a better total score for the group. Even though the 50% score is the lowest percentage, the assignment with the 65% score will be dropped, giving the student a score of 62 out of 74 points, or an 84%, for the assignment group.
Based on that information I think it should work how you are wanting it to.
Rick
Greetings,
I normally suggest that people only use the Drop (ignore) lowest score feature if all assignments in the Assignment Group have the same point value. But, that certainly isn't mandatory and it sounds like you understand the implications of not having them all be the same point value. Take a look at this page about Rules in assignment groups; the upper sections in the shaded box in particular. I've pasted below part of it.
Canvas considers how the rule most negatively or positively affects the student's overall score. A rule to drop the lowest score will remove the assignment score(s) from a student's group percentage calculation that will result in the best possible score for that group. A rule to drop the highest score will remove the assignment score(s) from a student's group percentage calculation that will result in the lowest possible score for that group. Dropping both the lowest and the highest score(s) removes any outlying scores and calculates a student’s grade based upon the remaining middle scores.
Dropping scores is based on the impact to the total points for that assignment group. In some cases, the point value may be considered more important than percentage score when determining which assignment to drop. For example, if a student earns 100% on a 50-point assignment, 65% on a 100-point assignment, and 50% on a 24-point assignment, the student’s total score is 127 out of 174 points, or 73% for the assignment group. If an instructor sets a rule to drop the assignment with the lowest score in the assignment group, Canvas will drop the score that gives the student a better total score for the group. Even though the 50% score is the lowest percentage, the assignment with the 65% score will be dropped, giving the student a score of 62 out of 74 points, or an 84%, for the assignment group.
Based on that information I think it should work how you are wanting it to.
Rick
If there are assignments that are not attempted at all, does this affect the "drop" lowest score behaviour?
For example - one main assignment and three make-up assessments (due to timetabling requirements). Can I drop "3 lowest scores" and have a single assignment counted towards final grade regardless whether it's the main or a make-up assessment?
To answer my own question: no.
The assignment group rule applies to all quizzes - even those that are not attempted.
I also have tests with different values, and unfortunately the first one is worth twice as many points as the others. When I apply the "drop 1 lowest" rule, it drops that first test for almost everyone because that gives the biggest grade impact. This is causing students who have 80% in the assignment group before the drop to have up to 110% after. Could I get around this by changing each test to Show Grade As Percentage?
The other hiccup is that these were paper tests, so I entered the scores manually. If I change to %, will Canvas calculate the % in the grade book, or would 27/30 become 27%?
Thanks for any suggestions!
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