[ARCHIVED] Canvas and Rediker and grades

[liz_laverty]

We're rolling quite well with Canvas now, but wondering what other schools with our setup do with grades.  Right now we have many of our faculty members grading in Canvas and then entering grades (again) in TeacherPlus. 

Is that what you all do? Or does anyone have a better solution.  Some have suggested Kimono, but they don't have it working yet.

Thank you!

[Stef_retired]

Hi,  @liz_laverty , I've shared your question with the Grade Pass Back​ and LMS & Migrations​ groups to enhance its visibility.

[liz_laverty]

Thank you!

[KristinL]

During the semester, teachers only provide grades in Canvas. At the end of the semester, we manually transfer our final grades to Rediker. While we could do this with each gradebook item, we wanted to prevent double-entry. (That seems like a lot of work!) It also encourages families to embrace the Observer role and the information provided in the Canvas Parent App.

We've considered using Clever to help with moving data from Canvas to Rediker, but haven't yet.

[djoubert · Accepted solution]

Two points, if you please:

1. Following the lead of  @emily_beckman ​, we did what Kristin does, where teachers enter all grades into Canvas, then, at the end of each grading period, teachers open TeacherPlus and enter the end total in the Grade column.  It's not as much work as entering grades twice, and, as Kristin says, it eliminates possible double entry errors (for the most part).
2. We tried ​Clever​ as a go-between for ​Admin Plus​ and ​Canvas​.  It was a complete debacle.  While consulting on the phone with the ​Rediker ​people, we made numerous tries using the ​Clever Export Tool​ built into ​AdminPlus​.  Not only was information never getting to ​Canvas​, incomplete data was being attempted to be transferred.  After weeks of trying to iron this out with ​Rediker​, we were on the verge of starting a new school year and turned to ​Canvas​ for help.  Because of our ​Canvas ​tech, Tawny Mathi, who worked hours and hours to straighten out the data finally captured from ​Clever​, we turned off all automatic syncs between ​Rediker​ and ​Clever​, because the data would go back to being screwed up if the sync was held.  So, when there are changes in ​AdminPlus​, we manually go into ​Canvas​ to make those changes.

​Rediker​ does have an ​Import Tool​ that would move our grades from ​Canvas​ to ​AdminPlus​, but, to purchase that button would cost over $3,500.00 for the first year, and another $1,700.00 per year after that.

This has taught us something:

• Integration between competing companies is never as easy as you think it's going to be.
• ​Rediker​ wants us to use all their products (naturally), and will do whatever they can to keep us from going elsewhere for our school data needs.

We are looking at going elsewhere for our SIS needs now.

[emily_beckman]

 @liz_laverty ​

 @djoubert ​

Another person to talk with is  @jchalfant ​ - in fact I will be reaching out to him soon. Jay has got the import set-up and working. Would we all like to get on a conference call so Jay can talk with us all at once instead of having 3 separate conversations?

I received this from Jay this summer:

For grades, we are using the Canvas Grade Exports tool under Admin > Reports. Since Rediker AdminPlus allows import of grades by file, this is pretty straightforward and doesn't require faculty to re-enter grades into another system. The only catch is that the Canvas Grade Exports report doesn't include a letter grade, only a percentage score. (See my idea: Grade Export should include Letter Grade) So we have to calculate the letter grade externally during the transfer. Because our school requires a standardized grading scheme across all sections, performing this calculation externally is feasible. (That said, I'm still miffed that my idea didn't get up-voted or at least picked up by development as a "necessary feature" to get it implemented; it seems to have died on the vine.)

[djoubert]

 @emily_beckman Elizabeth LavertJay ChalfantElizabeth Laverty @emily_beckman 

Emily,

I'm so sorry it took so long to get back to you.  This sounds like a great idea!  Is there a way to do a conference call with Jay and see if he's interested in helping?  Things are finally starting to slow down here in NOLA, so something in early January would be great!

As an aside, don't wait until February: Mardi Gras is coming!

[emily_beckman]

 @djoubert ​,  @jchalfant ​,  @liz_laverty ​

I will also email everyone incase they don't check their community email. But I would love to set-up a conference call. I think we could all benefit from a chat, not just about grades but it could give us a chance to exchange some ideas and practices.

I'm on vacation starting tomorrow until Jan 18th. After that I can make almost any day or time work.

-Emily